【塘虱風暴.專訪】釣魚郎平坂寬:永不能在日本找到如此污染的河

撰文:林若勤
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日本人平坂寬,專程來香港釣巨型塘虱,更炮製成「美食」,忍臭吞下。記者聯絡平坂,他受訪時收起網誌上的幽默,認真講解他的哲學和理念。
他是一個生態及魚類專家,喜歡研究大自然;
他亦是一個獵人,認真品嘗從大自然取得的食物;
他更是一個環保人士,對錦田河的水質受嚴重污染感到痛心。

聯絡他之前,記者佩服他的堅持,同時擔憂他太瘋狂,難以溝通。幸而,平坂平易近人,透過Twitter與記者以英文對談。

這條河(錦田河)水質的恐怖程度遠超乎想像!你永遠不能在日本找到一條如此污染的河流。 香港人非常勤快和充滿生命力,如果他們意識到這個問題且開始着手改變,毫無疑問可將問題解決。
平坂寬
平坂寬較早前到沖繩附近的石垣島,捕捉綠鬣蜥煮食。綠鬣蜥是外來物種,古時有人將牠帶成竉物帶到石垣島,卻擾亂了當地生態系統。(受訪者提供)

Q:請簡單介紹一下自己。

A:我今年30歲,在日本茨城縣的筑波大學碩士畢業,主修魚類學和環境科學,現為網上生物雜誌網站的總編輯。

(Job: Writer / journalist / The chief editor of http://www.monstersproshop.com; Age: 30 years; Education level: Master's Program of "Graduate School of Life and Environment Sciences (University of Tsukuba)"; Major subject: Fish Biology / Environment Sciences)

Q:為什麼你會來香港釣魚?是否一開始就打算釣鯰魚(塘虱)作為目標?

A:我對棲息在城市的大魚非常感興趣,了解牠們的生物特徵令我感興奮。而且調查一些「外星」(外來種)的生物也是我的興趣之一,我曾經出版過有關書籍。這條巨型塘虱就是我出發前已訂下的目標,這趟旅程是很好的經驗。

(I'm very interested in big fish lives in urban side! Their biological characteristics is so interesting and exciting for me. In addition, investigation of alien species is one of the my life style. I published book on this theme. That catfish is the very target, who meets both interests. This is the reason why, I got to Hong Kong and hunt the bad-tasting big fish. Very good experience for me.)

Q:你為何熱愛到世界各地釣魚和捕捉各種生物?

A:我很熱愛魚類和不同的動物,喜愛捕捉牠們和再仔細研究,以了解牠們。我相信如果要了解一種生物,就應該用五官感受:觸摸、觀察、聆聽、用鼻子嗅以及品嘗牠,所以通常我都會將釣到的獵物吃掉。過往我有不少有趣經驗,最近更在日本北海道的海岸釣到一條超巨型狼魚,當我上載到Twitter時,外國朋友都誤以為該魚受輻射影響而變得巨大。

(Well, I love fish or other various animals, and catch them to obtain detail knowledge of them. This is my belief. If we try to know animals deeply, should use five senses, the sense of touch, sight, hearing, smell, and TASTE. So, I often hold and eat fish as did this time. Interesting experience... I have so many! Recently, I caught a giant wolf-fish at the coast of Hokkai-do Japan. And then I upload photos of them on Twitter, many foreigner mistake the normal big fish for a monster made by radiation effect!)

熱愛釣魚的平坂寬,在沖繩收獲豐富,包括這條石頭魚。(受訪者提供)

Q:你在Twitter上表示,在港捉到的該條塘虱很臭,你真把牠吃完?既然很臭,為何還要吃?

A:當然有吃,我花了4至5天才把牠吃完。把牠吃掉,對我來說這是一種責任或要求,以尊重這條棲息在你(們)國家、又大又頑強的魚。不過這條魚味道很可怕,味道好像廢油或天然洗潔精,甚至化學品,要吃下條味道欠佳的大魚,令我非常痛苦。

(Yes. Of course and I took 4 or 5 days to finish whole fish. This is the duty or requiescat (request) for that respected big and tough fish lived in your country. It was terrible... Smells like waste oil or neutral detergent or some other CHEMICALS...! I took much pains with eat huge amounts of meat...)

平坂寬試過多種方法炮製香港塘虱,不過結果還是臭成這個樣子,最終要分4至5天才能吃完。(平坂寬網誌截圖)

Q:你怕不怕這條魚有毒?食用後有否不適?

A:我不太肯定這條魚是否有毒,但肯定(吃下)對健康有害。為了把該條魚吃完,我每天逐少吃掉魚肉,其中一天卻因為吃得太多而有點肚痛,但我不肯定是因為魚肉有毒,抑或吃得太多食油。

(However, I am not exactly sure if they are toxic, must be not good for our health. I eat him over a period of days, in small quantity each days. But, the day I ate much amount of meat, I had little stomach ache. I don't know the cause is toxic meat or too much fried oil...?)

經過網民瘋傳後,平坂寬在Twitter表示,這篇網誌已有326萬人閱覽。(平坂寬Twitter截圖)

Q:今次事件有否給予你啟示?

A:這條河水質的恐怖程度遠超乎想像!你永遠不能在日本找到一條如此污染的河流。不過香港人非常勤快和充滿生命力,如果他們意識到這個問題且開始着手改變,毫無疑問可將問題解決。另一方面,這條河不單被嚴重污染,更有大量「外星」(怪異)生物,短短幾天我經已找到烏鱧、尼羅口孵非鯽、福壽螺、彩龜以及熱帶非洲鯰魚(塘虱),這情況非常嚴重。

如果我的文章能令香港人反思,我會感到非常高興。

(Tell it like it is, that water quality is terrible beyond belief! In Japan, we can never see such polluted river. But, people in Hong Kong are very diligent and full of vitality, so if they are aware of this problem and start approaches, will solve it immediately. I have no doubt! And then, problem of Hong Kong river is not only water pollution, but also the so many alien species! I found a lot number of alien species for few days. For example, Channa argus, Oreochromis niloticus, Pomacea canaliculata, Trachemys scripta, and the tropical African catfish 土虱(Clarias sp.). This actual situation is very serious.

If my article would be Hong Kong people's opportunity to think about these problem, I'm very happy.)

(另外《香港01》得平坂寬教路,在元朗錦田河捕捉塘虱,揭發河水嚴重污染。詳見:【塘虱風暴】日本人捕獲巨型塘虱 揭錦田河嚴重污染